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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.08 19:49:00 -
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ctx2007 wrote:I only mine once in a while usually when i,m shipbuilding, but i,m guessing many full time miners are pretty sick to death of bot fleets raping the belts and RMT.
Something more needs to be done i,m sure.
How can you be sure of something you can't detect with player in game tools in the beginning???
There are a couple frustrated idiots in high sec not having the easy brainless gank available any more now bump some guy afk because they can, this is hilarious and actually demonstrates a lot about the nerdiness of some dudes.
They state you shouldn't have better or as much profits as them with their army of high sec alts: they just gank your ship before buff
Now they're completely mad because they need to invest in ships to gank you, therefore you're a bot, you can't have kids, things to do rl or whatever because THEY decided if you do'nt respond to their nerdiness they simply bump you out of the belt.
There's not much to say about this but only that if you really wanted to go or see the greatest concentration of stupid you couldn't go at any better place or game then Eve online. Their number is really impressive and the single idea they actually can reproduce themselves just freaks me out.
Edit: @ Darth -good questions. Very interested in those incoming answers too.
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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
942
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Posted - 2012.11.17 21:21:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Mara Rinn wrote:Darth Gustav wrote:Would you say, based on your response to the above, the threat of ganking was a deterrent to potential mining bot operators? As a human who partakes in mining, I would expect that the threat of ganking has a greater impact on the population of human miners. Thus I would expect that the introduction of the new barges has increased the population of human miners. The claim of "fighting bots" has only ever been a rationalisation on the part of the gankers. Just own up to the fact that you enjoy hunting the lowest form of prey in the game. I would tend to agree with this sentiment. Mostly because the threat of being ganked for a bot is vastly different then the same threat for a player. A bot who can mine 23.5/7 can easily lose a ship and make up the difference that day where the player who may only have a few hours of time to play each day and is much more less efficient than the bot will take longer to make up the money lost by being ganked. It will be interesting to see what CCP Sreegs has to say about it.
I guess gank needs nerfs and not buffs like they're giving to at next expansion. Because idiots being idiots the word miner=bot and I expect a lot of usual same boring common old rabble about inflation and miners and bots...
Buff gank mean take away players interested in that activity, be it afk cigarette coffee poo whatsoever, but doing it a couple hours a day. But will change absolutely nothing about bots still making huge amounts of isk and easily covering their losses.
Excellent move from CCP and gankers about shooting their own foot. I can smell it from here.
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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
942
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Posted - 2012.11.17 22:05:00 -
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Melvin Coulter wrote:I hate so say it, but i too would also like to know if this "New Order" has actually had an impact..
As much as the previous gankageddon on hulks: none but make clean place for the biggest botters in eve. Why would you spend so much energy and time with space pixels and fake threats&fears unless this costs you real money?
The one doing because of some sort of veldspar bushido code is an idiot the one pretending he's a good guy and care more about the "ho so important internet space ships economics" in my eyes acts more like a real money trader/botter than the other way around.
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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
949
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Posted - 2012.11.18 22:48:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:As valuable as your opinion is, CCP Stillman would be a better source I think.
Thx for giving me so much credit and let me refrain it again: you have as much impact on bots whatsoever as you had before with other tactics: little to none.
And again the only impact you refuse to admit you might actually have is on some players number of subscriptions.
I'm quite sure you already have the old same answer and rabble about it, no one serious around expects you to admit it and already knows you don't care since it's not your problem but CCP's one.
Therefore if you really had some interesting impact I guess they should have already gave you a forum medal or invite you for some Eve economics Noble price.
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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
949
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Posted - 2012.11.18 22:57:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Darth Gustav wrote:As valuable as your opinion is, CCP Stillman would be a better source I think. Thx for giving me so much credit and let me refrain it again: you have as much impact on bots whatsoever as you had before with other tactics: little to none. And again the only impact you refuse to admit you might actually have is on some players number of subscriptions. I'm quite sure you already have the old same answer and rabble about it, no one serious around expects you to admit it and already knows you don't care since it's not your problem but CCP's one. Therefore if you really had some interesting impact I guess they should have already gave you a forum medal or invite you for some Eve economics Noble price. So basically you're saying there's no information to be had here, even if there is? I'm not sure I understand why you would argue that your assumptions are better data than the real thing would be. Regardless of your actual assumpions, that seems pretty deluded. Thanks again, but I still hope for a reply from CCP about this. I think these are valid questions. Did botting in high-sec increase after the barge buffs? That's what the OP asks. The question about the New Order's bumping campaign was tertiary.
Don't get me wrong, I'm also waiting that data. You probably forgot about it but I previously said that if the mining barges buff would make of high sec botland per excellence as you and Zim stated, I'd come back to say I was wrong.
Now I'm only hoping if the numbers show it differently that you are a nice guy and actually post your assumptions were wrong, but I already know you will not and actually will find a little number somewhere to justify your arguments even if you have to make the blind guy on obvious numbers.
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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
953
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Posted - 2012.11.19 20:27:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:Melvin Coulter wrote:well maybe if we go off topic?
they seem to appear for that.
Waiting for dev... Fine. Story time. When I started my first free 14 day trial for Eve nearly eight years ago, CCP had no trouble telling me right in the login screen (it was a news item) that I couldn't log in on my free trial because they were trying to combat macro-miners (I'm not joking that's what they called them) by throttling free trial logins. I literally couldn't try Eve Online when the download finished because of bot miners tying up connection sockets. Bots and the AFK miners who so closely mimic them literally kept me from being able to try Eve. So I want to know if game changes favor that which I have come to loathe in Eve Online for game-health and economic reasons alike. Seven years later and here we are. Mum's the word on "macro-miners," who somehow still seem (at least from a recent game design standpoint) to be Preferred CustomersTM. So I went off-topic a little bit, but then I went back on-topic to keep it legit.
So it's all about an earlier age psychological trauma?
OK ok, I'm out, and for good this time.
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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
953
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Posted - 2012.11.19 21:14:00 -
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Gevlin wrote:I would looking through he past postings of the Nosey gamer as he has been tracking the activity o te tears of botters At http://nosygamer.blogspot.ca/
Self explanatory why so many threads tearing about isk value in game. Needs more isk in the game, not less, let RMT tears commence.
This explains that. Heck I'm still around when I clearly shouldn't...
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